Thank you all. Then I will just create a Tulpa without permanent switch.
5:11 PM
I still have to create one, do you have any tip or technique you’ e used wich worked well? I read a guide some times ago and it said just to talk in your head as if you would talk to another person, and it will be created. I don’t know if it was because of my lack of consistency, but still haven’t managed to have a tulpa.
Minhdyuk
I still have to create one, do you have any tip or technique you’ e used wich worked well? I read a guide some times ago and it said just to talk in your head as if you would talk to another person, and it will be created. I don’t know if it was because of my lack of consistency, but still haven’t managed to have a tulpa.
The 'pendulum technique' that @KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk came up with has had a 100% success rate as far as I can tell. What the technique provides is experience with the feeling of getting communication from an external source, but all it uses is your own brain (with the help of a bit of string and a weight). The idea is that, once you have this experience and know how it feels, you will know what feeling you are going for when creating your tulpa and communicating with them. People seem to find it helpful because it can be very confusing to understand how communication with a tulpa will feel before you create them, just by reading words in guides.
Here's a link: https://discord.com/channels/431579755037589505/431895537978048535/796424910867791872
I honestly would recommend against doing this.
The idea behind tulpamancy is you're creating someone new, not splitting your sense of self. There's no need to break yourself apart to "give" to your tulpa.
that's the belief I've been running with, albeit only applied to my own experiences
I can't make calls for other people when it comes to how their heads work, after all
Ah. Rereading my question I realized I may have miscommunicated. I mean, is it possible to have a tulpa you’ve never known about appear and then it turns out they’ve been there since before you started tulpamancy, but you have no recollection of them or any idea of who they could have been?
11:49 AM
Because what I’ve seen with most cases of accidental tulpas is they know who the tulpa is and how they were (or could have plausibly been) created. Which is not what happened with me.(edited)
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Ah. Rereading my question I realized I may have miscommunicated. I mean, is it possible to have a tulpa you’ve never known about appear and then it turns out they’ve been there since before you started tulpamancy, but you have no recollection of them or any idea of who they could have been?
Depends on what you want to call True or Possible :S
You could get a walk in (let in) with a made up backstory and belief will make it effectively as true as real.
1:14 PM
The second part just sounds like sepparating a part of yourself to me.
1:15 PM
A question you might want to ask yourself could be "is there any way i can effectively proof that the tulpa was there before my practice?"
1:17 PM
That question will inevitably lead to "is there any significant/perceptible difference between they having been there or not?"
Txoka
Depends on what you want to call True or Possible :S
You could get a walk in (let in) with a made up backstory and belief will make it effectively as true as real.
That’s what I’ve been struggling with, a little. When I think about that though, Dazai (a walk in) was created from obsessive thought. I haven’t had any obsessive thoughts that latched on regarding that, let alone anything about what he says he is.
It would make things much simpler if he’s a tulpa. But I disagree that what you choose is the truth, regarding headmates, because aren’t there differences between other types of headmates and tulpas that I should account for?
1:27 PM
I’m not sure how true it is but I’ve read that tulpas have to be maintained to stick around, and that they’re the only type of headmate that applies to.
Its just a matter of perspective, if you start encapsulating headmates in types you will cause them to be different as a self fulfilling profecy. Ultimately you decide their limitations by defining the type of headmate and labeling them into it.
1:29 PM
So yeah, there are types of headmates, because you decide so.
1:29 PM
You overcomplicate things by bringing deffinitions and types into the table.
1:29 PM
You can see the same headmate fron multiple different lenses.
My recomendation is just, try to accept them as a tulpa and work with them as if they were one. (I think thats what you would prefer)
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Ah. Rereading my question I realized I may have miscommunicated. I mean, is it possible to have a tulpa you’ve never known about appear and then it turns out they’ve been there since before you started tulpamancy, but you have no recollection of them or any idea of who they could have been?
just be aware that narrative is being built by whole brain and sometimes some parts of it might appear without your input, but you have the power to accept it or not(edited)
I only allowed it to become a genuine thought once myself and Dazai interacted with the new headmate.
1:41 PM
During the time I was in what I could consider the “creation phase” I was actually focusing on something else, because I’d hyperfixated on a different character.
True, yes, but I also wasn’t really thinking about that at the time? At the time I was more worried about accidentally having a new fictive headmate based on a character I’d hyperfixated on, so I don’t see how that intrusive thought could have formed into headmate over the thought I kept going back to. I would have noticed, because creation is a painful process for me.(edited)
Maybe creation is painful because you decided to define it that way, and now that it wasnt painful you decide that it is not creation because you decided that creation must be painful.
1:48 PM
You underestimate the extent of narrative. You are assuming that some things are just true.
1:48 PM
And that there is no changing them
Txoka
Maybe creation is painful because you decided to define it that way, and now that it wasnt painful you decide that it is not creation because you decided that creation must be painful.
But then this brings us back full circle, because I have a headmate who is not the character I hyperfixated on. I’m not sure where you’re trying to go with this?
Txoka
You underestimate the extent of narrative. You are assuming that some things are just true.
If nothing is certain then there is no stability. Im always open to changing my mind about what is true and what isn’t, after careful consideration, but I prefer to rely on the building blocks I have until I have good reason to believe otherwise.
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If nothing is certain then there is no stability. Im always open to changing my mind about what is true and what isn’t, after careful consideration, but I prefer to rely on the building blocks I have until I have good reason to believe otherwise.
But then this brings us back full circle, because I have a headmate who is not the character I hyperfixated on. I’m not sure where you’re trying to go with this?
-Tulpamancy is narrative
-Your whole brain builds narrative and sometimes it can come from outside of your consciousness, but you are the agent accepting it or not
-Sometimes things can get weird (like the situation you described), but you will not find the truth by digging in the weirdness. The weirdness will be part of narrative, and you accept it or not.
-There are no walk-ins, there are only let-ins
-You are the boss in your head and you decide what happens(edited)
1:59 PM
If you have problems with intrusive thoughts, don’t try to solve them through tulpamancy or let them get involved in your tulpamancy practice, try to work with them like with intrusive thoughts using techniques shown to you by your doctor(edited)
For the record, I wasn’t trying to solve intrusive thoughts through tulpamancy. I also don’t believe I have issues with intrusive thoughts themselves, more just an issue with obsession over them, which is a whole other can of worms.
I obsess over basically anything until I can figure out why I either like it so much or why it bothers me so much or, in terms of thoughts, why I thought that. I can get very invested in something and then I can’t let it go until I figure it out beyond a shadow of a doubt. I have issues just accepting things as truth without fact or experience backing it up.
It's quite remarkable, isn't it?
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